Bad Religion: Generator (Epitaph); Dag Nasty: Four on the Floor (Epitaph)

HARDCORE PUNK happened more than 10 years ago, meant less than it wanted to then, and means less than nothing now. Bad Religion and Dag Nasty are never-say-die veterans of the sub culture. Bad Religion, from LA, have always been Bad Religion. Dag Nasty, from the other coast, were, like Fugazi, a Minor Threat spinoff, but they've been Dag Nasty for at least as long they've been Minor Threat, which claims it's done for good now, kinda like the Who. Both Bad Religion and Dag Nasty have audiences who consider them classic-rock legends. No matter how little money they make, how unruly their slam-pits get or how much this is just a hobby, they're as predictable as pros.